Return of Grumpy Grammar Girl
Tuesday
May 6,2008
This edition brought to you by A) people who list rental properties on Craigslist and B) the university population in general, of which I expect better, although I clearly shouldn’t get my hopes up.
- Houses have CURB APPEAL, not CURVE APPEAL. What the hell is curve appeal? How could anyone possibly think that’s the phrase? It MAKES NO SENSE. Unless you live in a yurt, which I doubt you do.
- Quotation marks have very specific uses, and sticking them in to randomly emphasize a word isn’t one of them, despite the apparently rampant belief otherwise. When one places a word within “quotation marks” it implies the phrase, if not an actual quotation, is ironically used. And so is the OPPOSITE of what you are trying to say. If, therefore, you write that your house is in “mint” condition, I am going to assume it is actually a run-down dump. Ok? Similarly, if you call it a “FANTASTIC DEAL” I’m assuming you have jacked up the rent to a ridiculous sum. Well, actually that probably is true. Never mind.
- Similarly, the only phrases that need quotaton marks surrounding them are ACTUAL QUOTATIONS. With attributions. One of the campus buildings near here sports little signs on the doors informing people that they need to use their university ID to access the building after hours. Only it’s in quotes. The whole thing. My friend Deb has repeatedly used a black Sharpie to attribute “M Card must be used to access building after hours” variously to Cicero, JFK, Ghandi, and St. Thomas More. I’m terribly afraid that no one gets the joke, however, and I don’t want to know if that’s true. Because it’s a LANGUAGE ARTS BUILDING.
- Can we talk about misplaced apostrophes for a minute? There is a veritable epidemic in progress, and no one seems to care. Ok, except maybe these people. My recent perusals of real-estate listings have only served to remind me how rampant this is, apostrophes flung about everywhere without a care, but it doesn’t take much examination to realize this is a far-reaching plague. And it is annoying. Because the rules for apostrophes aren’t actually all that difficult. Let’s review (not to imply that you, Gentle Reader, need this review, but for the sake of argument, let us continue):
- Apostrophes are used to indicate possession and form contractions, NOT TO MAKE NOUNS PLURAL. For example: I don’t [contraction] think Paula Abdul’s [possession] Coke cup contains actual Coca-Cola. Apostrophes indicate POSSESSION, not plurality. Paula’s Coke cup, not All of the Coke cup’s. Or, to take an example from a recent Craiglist rental posting, hardwood floors’ and new window’s. Just typing that out and looking at it again is giving me hives. (NOT hive’s.) The window’s what? Beautiful view? Smudged glass? WHAT? I NEED TO KNOW!
- So apparently, although it seems fairly straightforward, the rules are more difficult to comprehend than would would think. Judging from the number of egregious violations I see on a daily basis, very few people retain any knowledge of this after they leave high school, and so just assume that any s they see is utterly bereft if there is no apostrophe either before or after it.
- While we’re on the subject, if you are going to use an apostrophe to indicate a conjunction or colloquialism, for pity’s sake put the thing in the correct place. Aren’t not are’nt. Li’l not Lil’ (although avoiding that usage altogether wouldn’t break my heart; is it that difficult to say LITTLE instead?). Y’all, not ya’ll. The apostrophe replaces the missing letter or letters.
- You’re/your and whose/who’s and it’s/its’/its form an entire subset of the apostrophe abuse issue all on their own. It gives me a headache on top of the hives to think about it. We’ve all screwed these up once in a while, as have I if I’m tired or distracted while typing, but in general it isn’t as difficult as people make it out to be. Really.
- Here’s a random one that probably only bugs me. If you ADOPT something/someone, you are making his/her/it your own. Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable, technically, to adopt a rule, a custom, a habit, a highway, whatever. (I’m leaving the emotional associations of the word out of this discussion, thanks.) If you ADAPT something, you are changing it. If you adapt the by-laws, you alter them in some way. If you adopt the said by-laws, you are making them the rules for your organization, unaltered.
- Affect/effect. These words are NOT interchangeable. This is another one of those that bothers me to no end, and I couldn’t even tell you why. It just does. The two words are different PARTS OF SPEECH. (Affect is a verb, effect is a noun, if you are wondering.) They are even SPELLED DIFFERENTLY.
- While we’re on a/e confusion, what’s the problem with accept/except/expect? Again, completely different words. Meaning very different things. But I keep reading about people “excepting a package” (or worse, a baby) or “not excepting checks” and I want to cry.
- Per se is Latin for “of itself.” Per say is not anything.
- BAITED BREATH. ZOMG, people, please, please, PLEASE stop writing “baited breath.” I am BEGGING YOU. Bated. It’s BATED. I do understand the confusion; bated means held, as in abated, and it’s not a word in common usage. But just think about it for a minute. Baited breath would have to mean something entirely different from waiting so anxiously that one is holding one’s breath, and it would smell rather fishy.
- This Onion article is a thing of beauty. Except that it kind of makes me want to cry, because it’s true.
As always, commentary and contributions gladly accepted. Or excepted. Or possibly expected.
37 Responses for "Return of Grumpy Grammar Girl"
Oh, girl. Speak it. Do you read The Blog of Unnecessary Quotation Marks? Grammar hilarity at its finest.
Also, yeah is not spelled ya. People need to stop that.
Well, dang. Now I’m so depressed I’m going to have to go out and get me a cup of expresso to perk myself back up.
[*snigger*]
I definitely agree with everything you have to say. It does drive me nuts, especially with the blatant misuse of apostrophes (not apostrophe’s). Though affect can be a noun if it is defined as the experience of a feeling or emotion.
A couple of more things that bug me:
When something is missing, you did not just loose it, you lose it. I mean one does not go on a diet to loose ten pounds What does that mean anyway? That the ten pounds is promiscuous? I cringe every time I see that and I see it way too often in my day to day work. GAH!
The usage of “could care less” when one really means to say “could not care less”. I could care less about the economy tanking, which means that I cared a little bit (or a lot) about it initially.
Also, express checkout lanes at stores with “10 items or less” is bit bothersome to see. At least Whole Foods has it right by stating “5 items or fewer” in their express checkout lanes.
That’s all I got for now.
Word.
Let me wander off into the land of “I” versus “me”. I love my husband (really, truly). I do not love his persistent use of “I” when it should be “me” in compound objects. He was subject to “I” abuse when a school child, it’s obvious. Folks, a simple way to tell whether you should use “I” or “Me” in a sentence is to…leave the other person out of the sentence and see what it sounds like.
“They were giving John and I a hard time” then becomes “They were giving I a hard time”. Dur. See how stupid it sounds??
Grrr.
Of course, as a total lazy hypocrite, I have to say I rarely use “whom”. But I use it more than most people!
The following sign at the local toy store makes me want to cry every day:
We have Lego’s.
Just think of the children!
Good comments! “Expresso,” “could care less,” and using “I” when “me” is appropriate all drive me crazy!
Also annoying: “of” instead of “have,” as in: “I should of studied harder in high school.”
ALSO “then” instead of “than,” as in: “I am way dumber then people who know how to use this word properly.”
That’s all for now, but if I think of more I am definitely coming back!
Oh! I don’t think this is technically a violation of grammar *per say* (snort) but it drives me crazy when people say things like “Four AM in the morning” or “Six PM at night.” It’s like “PIN number;” completely redundant. Apparently it is insurmountably difficult to think about what the words you are saying ACTUALLY MEAN. Sheesh.
Sing it, sister! Things that drive me crazy:
1) The misuse of the word myself. “Don, Ed, and myself went to the bar.”
2) Letters from third-grade teachers with incorrect grammar.
3) Signs that say Please drive slow (as opposed to slowly).
True Grammar Snob Confession:
Sometimes I troll message boards just to laugh at people who can’t write or spell. I never comment about it (and it is so, so hard sometimes not to send them a corrected copy), but it still makes me feel mean.
Not mean enough to stop though!
@ cat, galloping - the makers of Lego would be especially peeved because the word Lego is both singular and plural. I kid you not - it’s on their website.
I sent this post and The Onion link to my mom, an 8th grade English teacher, who is currently in the midst of grading what she terms as, “The worst research papers I have ever read.” Maybe it will make her feel better.
On second thought, maybe not!
Well done ! I’m a grumpy old Englishman and grammatical errors annoy me much more than they should. Arwen is quite right when he says that people don’t think about what they say and write. A well-known old English broadcaster used to have a catch-phrase which was “It all depends what you mean by….” How true this is ! And and for punctuation and general grammar, whilst I agree that language is constantly evolving, it must still be intelligible and convey a clear, concise meaning so that we all understand what the hell we are talking about. My latest moan is about the lost of adverbs, and I’m writing in my blog about that !!
Then avoid studying Dutch, where the correct plural of baby is baby’s. Really.
Some days I wonder if that’s where the confusion originally arose; other days I just think people are stupid.
(Oh, and I’m home now, if you want to send that yarn!)
Oh, bless your heart. You’ve summarized perfectly my short list of spelling and grammar pet peeves. As if “it’s” weren’t bad enough (when the writer means “its”, I’ve seen some mommy bloggers write “her’s” and “their’s” aaaarrrrgggh. (And the person I have in mind claims to be a professional writer. In her dreams.
It isn’t often that I’m rolling with laughter before 7:30 in the morning. But today — wow, you sure pegged it! And then there’s MANTLE when they mean MANTEL. I always wonder — where is the cloak hanging?? But don’t let it faze (NO, not phase, sigh) you. Have a good day, and say “hi” to Lynne Truss for me ;-D
Arwen, “7 AM in the morning” is my second biggest pet peeve! (My first is people who say “hot water heater” and “tuna fish.” Ye gads.)
My son’s 4th grade teacher sent home a newsletter that had “should of” and “could of” all over it. I swear I wept.
You’ve really peaked my interest!
Ha ha ha HA! I am going out right now to get a sharpie to be like your friend Deb. I HATE those unnecessary quotation marks.
The Grammar Vandal is on a campaign, too:
http://thegrammarvandal.wordpress.com/
You are all so right about all of these. They make me want to cry.
I sometimes have people want to axe me a question. Please don’t!
Bravo! I am SO with you! And I have to tell you that if I see one more person write WaaLaa (no kidding!!) when they mean Voila, I’m probably going to try to stab them with a spork. It is a real word, people, not some random sound from a Budweiser commercial.
Right with you on all of these and more….lately my pet peeve has been the number of people who seem to think “definitely” is actually spelled “defiantly”….grrrrr.
Karen, people WRITE WaaLaa? You’ve got to be kidding. That sounds like something out of a bad satire.
Oh, work ones:
Spayded. Because instead of performing surgery on your dog, I have just whacked her in the abdomen with a shovel.
Rockwieller, Rockwelder, and its ilk. If you can’t spell the breed, get a damn poodle.
Distermperament. It’s distemper. It’s a virus.
Non work related: referring to food as “eats.” I don’t know why that bothers me, but it drives me insane.
This is so much fun.
Yes, Arwen, indeed they do. Even worse, I’ve seen it more than once. The first time I tried to write it off as some type of odd joke, but then I saw it again. And yet again. From different people. Scary, isn’t it?
Christine, I get you with the distemperament. A woman I used to work with once told me that her cat had hissed at her when she picked him up and asked me if I thought he had distemper. Had to do the whole virus explanation. Yikes!
Here in NY, a very common horror is the expression “Not for nuthin’, but…” followed by some chatter. What the hell does that mean???
Danielle,
Actually “ya” for “yeah” doesn’t seem too unreasonable in some dialects (the ones like Scandosotan where people still say things like (phonetically) “Yah, sure, you betcha”. Though spelling it “ja”, as it is in German and Dutch and the Scandinavian languages, might be even better.
I love it when your grammar and spelling queen emerges! And thank you yet again for a post to which I can vigorously nod my head.
A few I have seen lately:
Reek havic - this from a message board
Whoah is me - OK there, trying to be Joey from Blossom?
And from my HOA informing us of the repaving of our streets:
“For all intensive purposes, the street will be closed for 24 hours.” I totally wanted to park there and be all, “Oh, my purposes were really laid-back and easy…”
I couldn’t believe it when I read Kathy’s comment. I thought I was the only one who had dealt with the “definitely” vs. “defiantly” issue. I’ve only come across it recently, and I wonder if it is a spell-check problem.
I teach a math course for future elementary teachers, and I’ve had a frighteningly large number of papers submitted lately that contain the sentence: “I defiantly want to become a teacher.”
EEK! I’m terrified!
(I also know of someone who consistently writes “pasted” for “passed.”)
Oh yes!
Also: “It’s been playing on my mind”. NO IT HASN’T. It has been preying on your mind, as an eagle preys on a rabbit.
And simplistic is not a fancier way of saying simple.
This is more a pronunciation one - vulnerable has an l in it for a reason. Let’s hear it!
I love this. I appreciate the additional comments, too. I do not feel alone in my obsession with grammar. Thank you.
I do want to point out that the word “quote” is a verb, and can never be used to replace the word “quotation,” as you have done in this post. Hence, they are “quotation marks and not “quotes.”
I also want to add this: people who correct me when I say “sneaked.” No, the word is not “snuck,” and the Grammar Hammer has not goofed.
Oh, and sher-bert is not anything. I promise. It is sherbet.
“Was” has no place in the subjunctive mood, ever.
Is antecedent-pronoun agreement a thing of the past? Everybody is singular, not plural!
One more: The possessive form is required before a gerund! It would then be: “The plaintiff’s selecting a new pair of shoes is a prerequisite to settlement.” Or: “My walking out of the room did not effect the outcome of the situation.” (Note my correct usage of “effect,” and not an abuse of “affect.”)
Melissa, actualy I think it could be either effect or affect there, and I’d probably use the latter, though the former is technically true as well.
If you mean “My walking out of the room did not change the outcome of the trial”, it’s affect.
If you mean “My walking out of the room did not cause the outcome of the trial to occur”, then it’s effect.
(Outcurmudgeoning the curmudgeons, here!)
Dichroic,
I will agree that it all depends upon the meaning of the sentence intended, but I hate people (yes, the people, not the actions or thoughts) who believe in affective nonsense for every situation. **** that. They remind me of the anti-yuppy yuppies who used to mock those who used effect and impact as verbs. That, and the people who shy away from using effect as a verb tend to be spineless sufferers of extreme verbal cowardice. All of this annoys me.
I meant it had no effect or — that it caused nothing. I believe that affect is overused in intention, too.
–Me
I thought of another one!
I hate it when people say “take a different tact” when they mean “take a different tack.”
Okay, I have another one that makes me nuts:
“I was so syked!”
Um, I think you mean “psyched?”
Jen, I want to exhort you never to become a professor of English. I think reading the students’ daily mangling of English and its proper usage probably would seriously endanger your blood pressure.
Meanwhile, rock on, my friend.
By the way, unfortunately, “effect” can occasionally be a verb, and “affect” can be a noun, but not for the meanings you point out above. This fact does, however, make your explanation harder to follow for the grammar simpletons.
Also, could we discuss the horrible abuse of insure/assure/ensure?
I am so entirely with you. It is fine so “speak” colloquially in writing in an email, for example, but to simply be illiterate is unreadable and annoying.
I recall a sign in a hardware store: Key’s Made. Every time I drove by it, I thought “what are they made to do?” and it drove me nuts.
The random application of quotation marks to emphasize gives me hives, as well. Oy. And on the language arts building? My hives have hives.
(see? colloquial speaking type of writing, so I can start a sentence with a conjunction and it isn’t horrible. At least not to me).
Love the new look. so glad you are back! I haven’t been able to see you for days and days.
I thought you would defiantly (heh) enjoy this:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/chi-typo-guys-0521may21,0,701362.story
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